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#11
(10-11-2020, 11:40 PM)Meggy Wrote: can I post another thread during the election

yes
or
no

circle the answer u choose

bahaha
It can't be about the election! Wink
#12
(10-11-2020, 05:42 PM)richwayne121 Wrote: plz delete my account too.

i thoght this place was meant to be somewhere kids were treated wit respect but then i got this

I would prefer you to remain, the younger members add a certain flavour to this forum, even if things get a little heated at times!


Alex
#13
I feel bad that somebody feels like he has to run away. Sometimes its easier to run away then it is to take correction but it isn't the right way for doing something. Sometimes we all make mistakes and things come out of us in a different way from how were feeling and we won't get it right if somebody doesn't correct us to help us see it. I don't know. Sometimes we can just be in a bad mood and act like a brat and that is when it is better to say I am sorry than to run away.
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#14
(10-11-2020, 08:57 PM)Anymouse Wrote:
(10-11-2020, 05:42 PM)richwayne121 Wrote: plz delete my account. ill find somewhere safer to speak to ppl about this because it sure isn't here. especially after i told the mods about a predator on the site 3 times and they did nothin about it.

Please don't go! We are trying our best, and I really do like your posts. I am probably more sympathetic than you might realize, but I wasn't awake for that conversation, again, I don't live in America.

Hello Anymouse. This is Rick's father, Michael Wayne.

I have in the past been content and even happy for my son to make use of this forum. However he has come to me today stating that he no longer wishes to do so following unpleasant comments that he received from one of the moderators.

I've examined the message that he posted, and I'm sincerely dissatisfied with the manner in which your senior moderator chose to deal with the situation. As you know, young people do not have the lived experience to express themselves in the same way that adults do, and for anybody to speak down to a child in such a dismissive and condescending manner simply does not engender an atmosphere of trust.

I have raised Rick to believe in expressing himself and sharing his ideas, and have always supported him in having frank and honest discussions with adults about his beliefs. I have never taken the attitude of telling him that he is 'too young' to form ideas, or dismissing him as being 'too much of a child' to know what he is speaking about. I'm a firm believer in treating my son with the respect that he is due.

My son has been deeply concerned with inappropriate comments that were made to him by a person on this site, which he reported and then (on my advice) blocked and ignored. He reported this issue but did not receive any feedback, and as a result felt that nothing was done. When he raised this by stating that he felt lied to, he found Nancy's comments made in reply to be dismissive - and in this thread she goes as far as to call it 'whining'. That is very short-sighted. Children ask for things in a variety of different ways, and don't always have the skills to know how you may prefer to be approached. As an adult in a position of care over children, it is the responsibility of the adult to treat those concerns responsibly. Instead they were not.

Nancy then went on to address my son's comment on the political thread in a way that can only be described as 'snide' - speaking ABOUT him rather than TO him. There is simply no justification for that. Children are intelligent and capable people, and the easiest way to frustrate one is to speak above their heads as if they are not there. I can only surmise that such behaviour was intended to be dismissive, and comes across as distinctly arrogant.

Children can be taxing at times and require both patience, care and respect. I can see from Nancy's comment on this post that she is lacking in these skills. Under normal circumstances, I would suggest Rick to simply block and ignore. However the issue is different when the other person is a moderator on the forum. Being a moderator places someone into a position of power, and it requires a great deal of trust from people around them to feel as though that power would not be abused. In this case, my son's trust in Nancy has been broken, and his trust in the moderators and adults of the forum as well.

My son does not feel safe on this forum as a result, and I support him in that. As a result I would ask again that you honour his request to close and remove his account.

Thank you.
#15
(10-12-2020, 08:56 AM)richwayne121 Wrote:
(10-11-2020, 08:57 PM)Anymouse Wrote:
(10-11-2020, 05:42 PM)richwayne121 Wrote: plz delete my account. ill find somewhere safer to speak to ppl about this because it sure isn't here. especially after i told the mods about a predator on the site 3 times and they did nothin about it.

Please don't go! We are trying our best, and I really do like your posts. I am probably more sympathetic than you might realize, but I wasn't awake for that conversation, again, I don't live in America.

Hello Anymouse. This is Rick's father, Michael Wayne.

I have in the past been content and even happy for my son to make use of this forum. However he has come to me today stating that he no longer wishes to do so following unpleasant comments that he received from one of the moderators.

I've examined the message that he posted, and I'm sincerely dissatisfied with the manner in which your senior moderator chose to deal with the situation. As you know, young people do not have the lived experience to express themselves in the same way that adults do, and for anybody to speak down to a child in such a dismissive and condescending manner simply does not engender an atmosphere of trust.

I have raised Rick to believe in expressing himself and sharing his ideas, and have always supported him in having frank and honest discussions with adults about his beliefs. I have never taken the attitude of telling him that he is 'too young' to form ideas, or dismissing him as being 'too much of a child' to know what he is speaking about. I'm a firm believer in treating my son with the respect that he is due.

Children can be taxing at times and require both patience, care and respect. I can see from Nancy's comment on this post that she is lacking in these skills. Under normal circumstances, I would suggest Rick to simply block and ignore. However the issue is different when the other person is a moderator on the forum. My son does not feel safe on this forum as a result, and I support him in that. As a result I would ask again that you honour his request to close and remove his account.

Thank you.


Just the observations of a mouthy teen.....why wouldn't a parent send a message to speak in private opposed to doing this in public? I know both my mom and stepdad have closely monitored my sister on another forum that was abusive towards her but they always were adult enough to take their concerns to the one in charge in a private setting.

FWIW I've been corrected by Nancy on this forum and while it isn't necessarily a pleasant experience....it is something adults do. So maybe you should, instead of defending his misbehavior, teach him how to express himself appropriately. I can assure you that when I went too far my mother did not defend me, she talked to me. Helps make me less likely to be out of bounds again.
Just sayin'
#16
(10-12-2020, 09:17 AM)Scarlette Wrote: So maybe you should, instead of defending his misbehavior, teach him how to express himself appropriately. I can assure you that when I went too far my mother did not defend me, she talked to me. Helps make me less likely to be out of bounds again.
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Thank you Scarlette. I have indeed spoken with Rick about this - in private. We have actually discussed it at great length, and I can assure you that I am not taking any side in that debate. That is another discussion entirely.
My post here is not made to 'defend' his behaviour, but to explain why he will not be using this forum further and to repeat his request that his account be closed. So yes, you are very right about what you have said.
#17
We will honor his wishes. I am sorry it came to this, and I do want to apologize for any upset. We will close his account.
#18
(10-12-2020, 09:28 AM)richwayne121 Wrote:
(10-12-2020, 09:17 AM)Scarlette Wrote: So maybe you should, instead of defending his misbehavior, teach him how to express himself appropriately. I can assure you that when I went too far my mother did not defend me, she talked to me. Helps make me less likely to be out of bounds again.
Just sayin'[/b][/color]

Thank you Scarlette. I have indeed spoken with Rick about this - in private. We have actually discussed it at great length, and I can assure you that I am not taking any side in that debate. That is another discussion entirely.
My post here is not made to 'defend' his behaviour, but to explain why he will not be using this forum further and to repeat his request that his account be closed. So yes, you are very right about what you have said.


Well you still could have and should have contacted an administrator in private.
Your deciding to make a complaint so public has resulted in making what should be none of my business, my business.
It isn't necessary to include everyone in your concern. Again, just sayin'
Another consideration for you, when stuff like this happens it causes some of us to wonder if any of the identities involved (as in you and your son) are who you say you are. It's just not how one would expect an adult to behave.
#19
(10-12-2020, 08:56 AM)richwayne121 Wrote:
(10-11-2020, 08:57 PM)Anymouse Wrote:
(10-11-2020, 05:42 PM)richwayne121 Wrote: plz delete my account. ill find somewhere safer to speak to ppl about this because it sure isn't here. especially after i told the mods about a predator on the site 3 times and they did nothin about it.

Please don't go! We are trying our best, and I really do like your posts. I am probably more sympathetic than you might realize, but I wasn't awake for that conversation, again, I don't live in America.

Hello Anymouse. This is Rick's father, Michael Wayne.

I have in the past been content and even happy for my son to make use of this forum. However he has come to me today stating that he no longer wishes to do so following unpleasant comments that he received from one of the moderators.

I've examined the message that he posted, and I'm sincerely dissatisfied with the manner in which your senior moderator chose to deal with the situation. As you know, young people do not have the lived experience to express themselves in the same way that adults do, and for anybody to speak down to a child in such a dismissive and condescending manner simply does not engender an atmosphere of trust.

I have raised Rick to believe in expressing himself and sharing his ideas, and have always supported him in having frank and honest discussions with adults about his beliefs. I have never taken the attitude of telling him that he is 'too young' to form ideas, or dismissing him as being 'too much of a child' to know what he is speaking about. I'm a firm believer in treating my son with the respect that he is due.

Children can be taxing at times and require both patience, care and respect. I can see from Nancy's comment on this post that she is lacking in these skills. Under normal circumstances, I would suggest Rick to simply block and ignore. However the issue is different when the other person is a moderator on the forum. My son does not feel safe on this forum as a result, and I support him in that. As a result I would ask again that you honour his request to close and remove his account.

Thank you.

I haven't had that many interactions with Rick on the forum, but the few I have had have not exactly impressed me. He seems to have a pretty antagonistic tone and doesn't come across as very respectful to me. I also would never tell a young person they are too young to form ideas or just dismiss what they have to say just because they are young. But if he wants people to respect him, he needs to dialogue in a way that's respectful. I would say that about anyone, regardless of their age.
#20
Quote:I haven't had that many interactions with Rick on the forum, but the few I have had have not exactly impressed me. He seems to have a pretty antagonistic tone and doesn't come across as very respectful to me. I also would never tell a young person they are too young to form ideas or just dismiss what they have to say just because they are young. But if he wants people to respect him, he needs to dialogue in a way that's respectful. I would say that about anyone, regardless of their age.

I'm not really well informed when it comes to politics though i would say i'm more conservative.

I just want to say that i don't think either you or Nancy did something wrong.
He wasn't respectful.


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